Below is a debate between atheists and the undersigned on the credibility of the Prophet (Pbuh) true personality based on the Quran. A lot of fabrications have been thrown on the Prophet (Pbuh) to tarnish his good name but the Quran have and will always protect his true personality from the mischief makers.
Reign Hard said Mo’s stories from the bible are just wrong. The Virgin Mary is not even a theme in the new testament. Christians made up a story about her being a virgin, whereas she was just a common girl who never sinned. It is known that Muhammad was an orphan. He needed a mother figure, Khadija. I won’t argue with Qur’an verses, nor will I use bible verses. Both come from the brain of mortals. Proving the Qur’an is the ultimate truth by quoting the same Qur’an is a snake eating its own tail.
I told you Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) did not refer to the Bible or any Jewish scripture or worst copied from “made up story by Christians” as you claimed, I am a believer of the Quran and based on Surah 10:94 and Surah 3:60 it confirmed he did not refer to anybody. He did not doubt the Quran at all! And here another confirmation that he did not know anything before he received revelation as stated in Surah 3:44 This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger!) by inspiration: Thou was not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor was thou with them when they disputed (the point).
Reign Hard said are you saying that there were two houses of worship and one of them was the ka’aba? Or that a ka’aba was built after the conquest of Mecca? You are not very clear.
Yes there are 2 places of worship but the kaabah is limited in space maybe it can accommodate about 20 people the most and only dignitaries may have the opportunity to pray inside it. The enclosure outside the Kaabah is where most people establish their prayer and this is known as the Sacred Mosque.
Reign Hard said read his biography, during the time he was a sales traveller for Khadija (that was before she married him) he spoke a lot with Jews and Christians who used to sit on a corner and exchanged religious matters Even a child can recognize the stories from the Bible. They are much more detailed in the book of the people of the book. He just didn’t know them well enough. Muhammad claimed that the gospel had come down like his own Qur’an, every Christian knows that this is not the case.
Well Reign Hard the Christians and the Jews did say these to him –
And they say: “None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian.” Those are their (vain) desires. Say: “Produce your proof if ye are truthful.” Nay, whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good, He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. And the Jews tell him about the Christians as stated in Surah 2:113 The Jews say: “The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: “The Jews have naught (To stand) upon.” Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.
The Prophet (Pbuh) will never say the Gospel come down like his Quran it is the revelation that were the same for all messengers as stated in Surah 4:163 We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms. So you are wrong to say that the Prophet (Pbuh) said the Gospel came down like the Quran.
Reign Hard said first he thought that his revelations would be a kind of third book but the Christians that converted were just a few. Later on in life, when he saw that only a few Jews came over to his side, he started to loathe them. The change of ‘Allah’s’ mind is clearly noticeable in the Qur’an for those who are not afraid to question Islam.
Why should he loathe at them or change his tactic first there is no compulsion in religion at Surah 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and know all things. And at Surah 10:108 Say: “O ye men! Now Truth hath reached you from your Lord! Those who receive guidance, do so for the good of their own souls; those who stray, do so to their own loss: and I am not (set) over you to arrange your affairs.” He obeyed Allah not to compel others.
Peter Anthony said Reign Hard you cannot reason with towel heads. If Allah wanted he just could have snapped his fingers and given Muhammad the Koran then order Jibril to teach him to read daily. No need to write on stones sheep skins and bones and what not negating the belief he is a provider.
What kind of rubbish stones, sheep skins and bones are you talking about Peter Anthony? The Quran is a book during the prophet’s time see this Surah 39:23 Allah has revealed the most beautiful Message in the form of a Book, consistent with itself, (yet) repeating (its teaching in various aspects): the skins of those who fear their Lord tremble thereat; then their skins and their hearts do soften to the celebration of Allah’s praises. Such is the guidance of Allah: He guides there with whom He pleases, but such as Allah leaves to stray, can have none to guide.
Peter Anthony said the sexual drive of Muhammed and his attempt to justify 11 wives a child wife and the stealing of his adopted son in law’s wife is a clear indication of a man who had no morals.
All the Prophet’s wives were chosen by Allah which the Prophet had to follow see this at Surah 33:50 O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee.
Peter Anthony said the sexual drive of Muhammed and his attempt to justify 11 wives, a child wife and the stealing of his adopted son in law’s wife is a clear indication of a man who had no moral.
What child wife are you talking about Peter Anthony in the Quran there is the marriage test only morons will believe he married a child –
Surah 4:6 Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to them. A six year old will not only be unable to manage her own house but not even matured to even mixed her own tea!
Peter Anthony said the sexual drive of Muhammed and his attempt to justify 11 wives a child wife and the stealing of his adopted son in law’s wife is a clear indication of a man who had no moral.
What stealing of his adopted son’s wife are you talking about? He refused to marry her but Allah commanded him to do so, see this –
Surah 33:37-38 Behold! Thou (O Muhammad) did say to one (Zaid) who had received the grace of Allah and thy (Muhammad) favor: “Retain thou (Zaid in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah.” But thou (Muhammad) did hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou (Muhammad) did fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou (Muhammad) should fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee (Muhammad): in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah’s command must be fulfilled. There can be no difficulty to the Prophet in what Allah has indicated to him as a duty.
The Prophet was ashamed and fear the people reaction to marry his adopted son’s wife but Allah commanded him to obey so it is not his choice as you falsely claimed Peter Anthony he has to obey the command of Allah!
Peter Anthony said to further feed his sex drive he kept slave girls,beheaded the men raped the women and forced them to be his wives…This itself tells you the questionable character of this man . No other prophet is so sick …From the time Islam appeared till today there is no peace it is supposed to be a religion of peace
Where did you get this information Peter Anthony? Did you pick it from garbage written by 9th century Persian morons? The Persians had always hated the Arabs!
Peter Anthony said Allahu Akbar is always a war cry…
Where did you get Allahu Akbar as his war cry? The Prophet (Pbuh) never used such name as it cannot be found anywhere in the Quran but here is how he called on Allah –
Surah 17:110-111 Say: “Call upon Allah, or call upon Al Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between.” Say: “Praise be to Allah, who begets no son, and has no partner in (His) dominion: Nor (needs) He any to protect Him from humiliation: yea, magnify Him for His greatness and glory!”
He called on Allah not as Akbar as Al Kabir as stated in Surah 13:9 He know the unseen and that which is open: He is the Great (Al Kabir), the Most High.
Peter Anthony said they just made up stories about him, sanctified him perfumed him up, placed him equal with Allah.
So don’t blame the Prophet (Pbuh) Peter Anthony for what others do, he is not equal to Allah and he said it see Surah 18:110 Say: “I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah: whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.
Peter Anthony said thev idealogy of lslam is to create a world order using Islam and it’s Sharia….it will never have peace ..Even by itself in the middle East there is no peace.. Europe opened its doors to migrants with Christian charity taking care of them with their citizens tax . It’s being paid with ingratitude and refusal to integrate with crimes against the very people who fed them…aim being again to build an Islamic World order.
It is not the teaching of the Quran Peter Anthony it is the teaching of the religion of hadith written by 9th century Persian morons. So do your homework first and when you are ready to blame the Quranic teaching you may come to me otherwise don’t waste my time!
Peter Anthony said basic teaching of violence comes from the Quran.
The Quran does not teach violence you are quoting garbage religion written by 9th century Persian morons where they pick killing punishment from the Bible like stoning the fornicators or killing the apostate and many other killing laws.
Here is what is being taught in the Quran
Surah 60:8 Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.
Surah 26:227 Except those who believe, work righteousness, engage much in the remembrance of Allah, and defend themselves only after they are unjustly attacked. And soon will the unjust assailants know what vicissitudes their affairs will take!
Surah 22:39 To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;-
Surah 42:41-42 But indeed if any do help and defend themselves after a wrong (done) to them, against such there is no cause of blame. The blame is only against those who oppress men and wrong-doing and insolently transgress beyond bounds through the land, defying right and justice: for such there will be a penalty grievous.
Surah 2:190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah love not transgressors.